{"id":6495,"date":"2010-01-28T12:31:09","date_gmt":"2010-01-28T10:31:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.whalecottage.com\/blog\/?p=6495"},"modified":"2010-04-24T13:03:59","modified_gmt":"2010-04-24T11:03:59","slug":"carne-and-other-restaurant-cons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chrisvonulmenstein.com\/blog\/cape-town\/carne-and-other-restaurant-cons\/","title":{"rendered":"Carne (and other restaurant) cons!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.whalecottage.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/carne-steak.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6501\" title=\"carne-steak\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.whalecottage.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/carne-steak-150x150.jpg?resize=150%2C150\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.chrisvonulmenstein.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/carne-steak.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.chrisvonulmenstein.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/usr\/www\/users\/whalec\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/carne-steak.jpg?zoom=2&amp;resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>While we all love to eat out, it is disappointing when one gets taken for a ride by restaurants making false claims, or\u00a0if they are\u00a0dishonest in the presentation of their product and service.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">My favourite hobby horse is wines-by-the-glass.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>I have discovered regularly that the chosen vintage for such wines is seldom that which is advertised on the winelist.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Few winelists have a disclaimer, covering them for a vintage running out.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>I always ask for the wine to be poured at the table &#8211; I also want to taste it before a glassful is poured.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Few restaurants do this.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Last week, at Wijnhuis in Newlands, a restaurant that places wines prominently in the foreground, I ordered a glass of Delheim Shiraz 2004, as per the winelist.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The waiter brought the poured glass to the table.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>When I asked him to pour it at the table he came with a 2006 bottle.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>When questioned about the vintage difference, he shrugged his shoulders.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The vintages had run out, he said, as if to say \u00e2\u20ac\u201c so what?!<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The older the wine, the more expensive it is.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>So therefore, by deduction, a restaurant should charge less if the vintage is younger than advertised.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">At Vaudeville earlier this month four glasses of wine were poured out of a bottle, and the bottle was not left on the table.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>When we asked for the rest of the wine, we were told that it was finished.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Any restaurateur will tell you that you can pour up to\u00a06 glasses of wine out of a 750 ml bottle.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The GM begrudgingly brought 2 further glasses of wine to the table.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Surprisingly they do not tell you that the bottle is finished, nor sell you another!<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">Newport Deli in Mouille Point wipes the mayonnaise\u00a0off the\u00a0tuna and chicken from the previous day&#8217;s\u00a0sandwiches, puts them onto fresh bread, adds new mayonnaise, and calls the sandwiches &#8220;fresh&#8221;!<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">According to an\u00a0ex-waiter of Bayside Cafe in Camps Bay, the left-over vegetables (usually butternut and spinach) returned from the table\u00a0are put back into containers, and re-used for the next patrons!<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">A more\u00a0devious dishonesty is when a restaurant makes a claim on its menu and website that it serves only organic beef, lamb and\u00a0game from the owner&#8217;s farm in the Karoo, and an insider whistleblower tells friends that the restaurant in fact uses meat delivered from the same meat suppliers used by other restaurants in Cape Town.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The restaurant in question is Carne, well-known as a specialist meat\/steak restaurant, which states on its website<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/em><\/span><\/span><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-ZA;\">&#8220;Dedicated entirely to meat as is evident from its Italian name, Carne SA is a carnivore&#8217;s paradise serving a unique offering of the finest cuts of Romagnola beef, Dorper lamb and game, all organically grown on Giorgio&#8217;s own Karoo farms.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-ZA;\">To test this allegation before confronting Carne, the December statement and\u00a0an invoice from one of Carne&#8217;s largest meat suppliers \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Gastro Foods \u00e2\u20ac\u201c which supplied about R60 000 worth of meat, including\u00a0Romagnola &#8220;beef\u00a0T-bone&#8221;, &#8220;beef prime rib Carne&#8221; and &#8220;Beef Rump Swiss&#8221;, to Carne in December, were checked.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 Botes\u00a0Meat Centre\u00a0also supplied Carne with meat to the value of about R15 000 in the same month. \u00a0\u00a0<\/span>We then wrote to Carne owner Giorgio Nava, asking him to comment on the allegation that not all his meat, as claimed on his website and his menu, comes from his farm and that not all of it is organic.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>This was his reply<\/span><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-ZA;\">:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>&#8220;<\/span><\/em><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"color: #1f497d; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-ZA; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\">The traditional meat suppliers in cape town supply us from time to time with offal ( because we need fresh daily, impossible from the Karoo ) and two traditional suppliers store my carcase when ,my two cold rooms are full. One traditional supplier cuts my meat from time to time when I cannot handle the amount of work. We buy samples of meat from many suppliers to compare regularly with our grass fed meat. Hope my answer satisfies you.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Regards,<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Giorgio Nava&#8221;!<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-ZA;\">With a purchase of R 30 000 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c R 60 000 per month of beef from Gastro Foods, and about R 15 000 &#8211; R 20 000 from Botes Meat Centre,\u00a0it\u00a0appears likely that most of the beef\u00a0served at Carne is NOT from the Karoo,\u00a0NOR is all of\u00a0it organic!!!<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0T<\/span>his is outright dishonesty, unacceptable for any restaurant, and especially for one on the\u00a0<strong>Eat Out<\/strong> Top 20 list.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: #ff0000; font-size: small;\"><strong>POSTSCRIPT (30 January)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Since this post was published, Giorgio Nava has called, and explained that he rears beef on his farm in the Karoo, and sells the carcasses to meat suppliers such as Gastro Foods at market-related prices.\u00a0 They cut these up, and he buys the\u00a0beef cuts that he serves at Carne back from them, at market-related prices.\u00a0\u00a0 This was his written reply:\u00a0 <em>&#8220;<span style=\"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d; font-size: 11pt;\">Chris I think you&#8217;ve got the wrong information. The two butchers you mentioned in your article buy my whole carcases they mature for me they cut for me as I stated before and they sell back to me the cut I need for my menu\u00a0 as I cannot utilise the whole carcase in my restaurant.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">This was confirmed by Andreas Reichmuth, the GM of Gastro Foods, who called proactively to support Carne.\u00a0\u00a0 HOWEVER, Mr Reichmuth spontaneously volunteered, without being asked, that he delivers ostrich and game to Carne too, which does not come from Mr Nava&#8217;s Karoo farm.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Gastro Foods does not supply lamb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">Despite legal pressure from Mr Nava and his lawyer, we stand by our story that not all meat prepared at Carne is from Mr Nava&#8217;s Karoo farm, and may not all be organic,on the following grounds:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">1.\u00a0 Mr Nava has confirmed that he does buy in &#8220;meat from many suppliers to compare regularly with our grass fed meat&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">2.\u00a0 Gastro Foods&#8217; GM confirmed on 29 January that his company supplies to Carne game that is not from Mr Nava&#8217;s farm<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">3.\u00a0 Rossouw&#8217;s Restaurants wrote on 10 January 2009 that &#8220;&#8230;.plus some of the meat comes from Nava&#8217;s own farm&#8221;, implying that not all of it does come from the Karoo farm.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">We have requested Mr Nava to provide us with details of the lamb that he uses, and whether it is supplied by a meat supplier, and wh<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">ether this is done on the same basis as the arrangement he has with Gastro Foods for the beef supply.\u00a0\u00a0 We have also asked for organic certification of his meats.\u00a0 Both requests were denied, and the writer has been referred to Mr Nava&#8217;s lawyer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;\">We are surprised that Mr Nava did not explain the\u00a0sale of his beef carcasses and buy-back relationship when he was approached for comment prior to the\u00a0publishing of the post.\u00a0 He offered no information about his lamb and game supply.\u00a0\u00a0 We asked Mr Nava: &#8220;<span style=\"font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;\">I have been told that your website may be misleading in claiming that all the meats that you use are organically produced on your Karoo farms, and that they might in fact be delivered by traditional meat suppliers in Cape Town&#8221;.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: #888888; font-size: small;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>POSTCRIPT (2 February)<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: #888888; font-size: small;\"><span style=\"color: #003300;\">Mr Nava&#8217;s lawyer has written to confirm that Carne has a similar sell\/buy-back relationship with Botes Meat Centre as far as his lamb and game is concerned.\u00a0 He did not address the request for the organic certification.\u00a0\u00a0 He also\u00a0wrote that &#8220;Mr Nava considers this matter to be at an end&#8221;.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: #000000; font-size: small;\">The controversial claim on the Carne website has not yet been amended.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: #ff0000; font-size: small;\"><strong>POSTSCRIPT 3 (24 April)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; 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